Walter Russell Mead discusses a new United States–Indonesia defense agreement, robots replacing manual labor in Kentucky, Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s support for Hamas, and Joe Biden's approach to Israel through the lens of Iran policy on the podcast What Really Matters.

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US President Donald Trump reacts after signing executive orders imposing tariffs on imported goods in the Rose Garden at the White House on April 2, 2025, in Washington, DC. (Andrew Harnik via Getty Images)